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super pacs like abc, nbc, cbs, pbs, npr, cnn, the new york times? the million dollars from the new york times that they spend every year to produce this product and pay its employees is enough, don't you? host: are you calling the media outlets super pacs? caller: definitely, they are political lobbying groups. guest: the first amendment to the constitution as a provision that talks about the press. so there has always been in the rules about financing campaigns an exemption for news organizations. there are no restrictions on what people can write in newspapers or can express on television. they are very careful to separate their editorial opinions and the editorial pages and their own perspectives from the news. that is their profession. it encourages them to be as objective as they can. so everybody is free to judge those messages as they come from the media and there are lots of them in very different forms in this era than there have been in the past. but there's an exemption in the constitution that allows them to spend money that way without any restrictions. host: let's look at
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